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	<title>Comments on: Concepts are in C++0x!</title>
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		<title>By: Niels Dekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels Dekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug,

It was very nice meeting you in Frankfurt. I see Dave and you have just opened a new website, http://cpp-next.com  Great!

I&#039;d recommend anyone else reading your blog to also check http://cpp-next.com

Kind regards, Niels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,</p>
<p>It was very nice meeting you in Frankfurt. I see Dave and you have just opened a new website, <a href="http://cpp-next.com" rel="nofollow">http://cpp-next.com</a>  Great!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend anyone else reading your blog to also check <a href="http://cpp-next.com" rel="nofollow">http://cpp-next.com</a></p>
<p>Kind regards, Niels</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NC++0x has many &quot;selling points&quot;-- heck, C++ as it /now/ has many &quot;selling points&quot;!

I&#039;m still reading Bjarne Stroustrup&#039;s &quot;Simplifying Concepts&quot;. It is great-- I mean, great-- reading, even though it is obviously an unpolished piece written for a fairly narrow audience. (&quot;http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2009/n2906.pdf&quot;)

Stroustrup has written a post for Dr. Dobb&#039;s:
&quot;http://www.ddj.com/cpp/218600111&quot;

I&#039;ve seen another from Danny Kalev. I haven&#039;t followed any other discussions yet, so I&#039;m a bit out of the loop: this is &quot;news to me&quot;, too.

Personally, I get a sense that Dr. Stroustrup does seem determined to assuage bitterness. Think of the work that&#039;s gone into this!! Read his essay to understand some of the problems, and the article for some so-called reconciliation (in the sense that it gives me, the fight is far from over!). Seven-plus years of work on a project you care about and untold numbers of programmers use or are affected by each day doesn&#039;t disappear easily.

I was stunned by the news, too. Concepts were indeed highly vaunted, and rightly so. The trouble is... well, I&#039;m sure that Dr. Gregor will write something thoughtful (ahem... Doug.. ;).

I&#039;m looking forward to C++0whatever. Heck, just the &quot;auto&quot; keyword alone will help with many of my (sob!) personal problems in daily coding &quot;getting the job done&quot;. The &quot;little&quot; features mean a lot to ordinary mortals.

But, it&#039;s very, very important to get at the fundamentals. C++ is a brilliant software engineering language, with a lot of strength. Each choice from the committee will impact untold lines of code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NC++0x has many &#8220;selling points&#8221;&#8211; heck, C++ as it /now/ has many &#8220;selling points&#8221;!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still reading Bjarne Stroustrup&#8217;s &#8220;Simplifying Concepts&#8221;. It is great&#8211; I mean, great&#8211; reading, even though it is obviously an unpolished piece written for a fairly narrow audience. (&#8220;http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2009/n2906.pdf&#8221;)</p>
<p>Stroustrup has written a post for Dr. Dobb&#8217;s:<br />
&#8220;http://www.ddj.com/cpp/218600111&#8243;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen another from Danny Kalev. I haven&#8217;t followed any other discussions yet, so I&#8217;m a bit out of the loop: this is &#8220;news to me&#8221;, too.</p>
<p>Personally, I get a sense that Dr. Stroustrup does seem determined to assuage bitterness. Think of the work that&#8217;s gone into this!! Read his essay to understand some of the problems, and the article for some so-called reconciliation (in the sense that it gives me, the fight is far from over!). Seven-plus years of work on a project you care about and untold numbers of programmers use or are affected by each day doesn&#8217;t disappear easily.</p>
<p>I was stunned by the news, too. Concepts were indeed highly vaunted, and rightly so. The trouble is&#8230; well, I&#8217;m sure that Dr. Gregor will write something thoughtful (ahem&#8230; Doug.. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to C++0whatever. Heck, just the &#8220;auto&#8221; keyword alone will help with many of my (sob!) personal problems in daily coding &#8220;getting the job done&#8221;. The &#8220;little&#8221; features mean a lot to ordinary mortals.</p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s very, very important to get at the fundamentals. C++ is a brilliant software engineering language, with a lot of strength. Each choice from the committee will impact untold lines of code.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And today, concepts were voted off C++0x. What selling point does 0x have now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And today, concepts were voted off C++0x. What selling point does 0x have now?</p>
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		<title>By: Umesh Sirsiwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umesh Sirsiwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations. When do you guys think Concepts will find their way to GCC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations. When do you guys think Concepts will find their way to GCC?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Woolgar</title>
		<link>http://conceptgcc.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/concepts-are-in-c0x/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Woolgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on this achievement.  Good news indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on this achievement.  Good news indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Williamson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome! This is great news.</description>
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